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Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby MikkelDemey » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:23 pm

Restarting this awesome thread here.

I will briefly summarize what we had in the next post...

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Day 1 - Day 4

Postby nza » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:24 pm

Ok, here are the first 4/7 days of the creation. Written to emulate that one book.

0 In the beginning there was nothing. The earth was without form or composition. All of space was a black abyss. All that was was the Alpha Omega, Arceus, the creator. Arceus, who bore 1,000 arms, who bore the knowledge of perfection, who bore the emotion to endlessly adore all that it fathered, and who bore the willpower to create.

1 And on the first day Arceus said, "Let there be a foundation for which I can forge life, the universe, and everything."

In the image of Arceus was spawned Dialga and time began to flow. Dialga whose blue exterior sparkled 1,000 sparkles. Dialga whose blue exterior was impenetrable by time and the void. The sheen of time pulsated throughout the completeness of Dialga. Arceus saw itself in the face of time and Arceus said that it was good.

In the image of Arceus was spawned Palkia and space began to flow. Palkia whose purple exterior sparkled 1,000 sparkles. Palkia whose purple exterior was impermeable by space and the void. The abyss of space was filled with the completeness of Palkia. Arceus saw itself in the face of space and Arceus said that it was good.

In the image of Arceus was spawned Giratina and the void was filled. Giratina whose gray exterior was feint and eerie. Giratina whose exterior was impervious to time and space. The darkness of space was given to the completeness of Giratina. Arceus saw itself in the face of the void and Arceus said that it was good.

Looking at the faces of the first three creations Arceus cried three tears.

From the eyes of Arceus fell Uxie. The embodiment of the alpha omega's knowledge. And Dialga and Palkia were stricken with thought.

From the eyes of Arceus fell Mesprit. The embodiment of the alpha omega's emotion. And Dialga and Palkia were stricken with compassion.

From the eyes of Arceus fell Azelf. The embodiment of the alpha omega's willpower. And Dialga and Palkia were stricken with determination.

Arceus saw the embodiment of itself in it's tears and deemed that they were indeed of pureheart.

2 On the second mark of time Arceus was found to be unhappy with all that it had created and so Arceus set out to contrive more.

The Alpha Omega beckoned space and said that it was empty. Arceus looked adorantly at the 1,000 sparkles of Palkia's purple exterior imagining that all of space were filled with the globulous sparkles. And so it was, space was lined with guiding beacons of hope, the planets were born.

Arceus would point at one star and say that it was the sun. To ward off the blackness of space the alpha omega would fill the star with light. And Palkia felt happy.

Next the Alpha Omega beckoned time and said that it was empty. Arceus looked adorantly at the 1,000 planets of Palkia's space and imagined that one of them were marked by the passage of it's endlessly flowing time. Arceus pointed, naming the moon and saying that it would be new and full.

As it were Cresselia of the new moon was born. It shown lightness of the dark moon and rang in the hope of rebirth for those passing out of the void.

Arceus would then bore Darkrai of the full moon. It shown darkness of the light moon and rang in the fear of those passing into the void. And happiness overcame Dialga.

The Alpha Omega did proclaim the sun and moon to be inverse. Marking Dialga's reign of time and Palkia's reign of space. Arceus would, on the 'morrow, set out to create a beautiful planet with which all of it's children could rejoice in their greatness.

Arceus did next beckon Giratina. Arceus looked adorantly at the void and said that in the next day it would birth a planet of life that would end and be born again, in it's absense passing through Giratina's void. And Giratina felt happiness.

In the Alpha Omega's final action of the first day it beckoned the three tears embodying it's pureheart and said that that planet of life would be drenched in knowledge, emotion, and willpower and Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf were happy.

3 On the third mark of time Arceus was filled with the urge to satisfy itself and give it's children a creation to rejoice over. The Alpha Omega set out to construct a beautiful planet.

Arceus reasoned that this planet would be of a powerful foundation. That this planet would bear a core of liquid heat, so that they all could feel it's greatness. Arceus pointed to a star nearest the moon of Cresselia and Darkrai and said that it would be earth. The star was drowned in liquid heat and the liquid flowed furiously about. This Arceus would name Heatran. And Heatran was born.

Upon seeing the glorious surges of the planet's foundation the Alpha Omega reasoned that it was not of a permanent foundation. Arceus again pointed at the planet and dried it's surface. The planet was now powerful and permanent.

And seeing the calmness of this surface Arceus reasoned that the powerful surges need return but in a cool and undestructive form, for the surface was bland and uninteresting. The Alpha Omega pointed at the hardened surfaces of earth and filled it's crevices and valleys and plains with water. The water thrashed about the planet in a rage reminiscient of it's core.

Still this planet was not something for Arceus and it's children to rejoice over. The surface of the earth was aimless and without mastery. Arceus looked upon the hardened land, seeing as Heatran dug holes into it, where the magmatic core would seep out of. From this unmoving surface was born Groudon. A large creature which could control the lands. Arceus looked at the raging waters and borned Kyogre, which could control the oceans of water.

The two creatures were ever powerful and overcome with rage and the need to control the entirety of earth's surface. They fought through the light of the sun and soon the darkness fell upon their fury. Arceus and it's children watched as the battle for control continued through the night.

4 On the fourth mark of time Arceus was not content with the goings on of this planet. It was in constant battle and did not satisfy time, space, or the void. There was nothing on this planet to rejoice over.

Arceus was given to bring peace to earth. The tears of his pureheart fell onto the grounds of the planet forming three lakes. Each lake rang in the embodiment of Arceus, his thought, compassion, and determination. This only drove the two beasts into a greater rage. The battle of Groudon and Kyogre forced water out into space.

The Alpha Omega feared for time and space. It created a being to watch over time, it created Celebi. A small green being of much intelligence Celebi would only appear once for every 1,000th passage of time. Celebi was given to the earth. It remained but was also fearful.

It created a being being to watch over space, it created Jirachi. A small yellow being of much intelligence Jirachi would only appear once for every wish that was made. Jirachi was given to the earth. It remained but was fearful.

These two beings and the lakes of it's pureheart were still not enough to calm the raging beasts or make the Alpha Omega feel safe, for two of it's creations remained in fear. Unhappy with this Arceus setout to concoct the embodiment's of peace.

In the image of the redness of Groudon Arceus created Latias. Latias would refract the light of the sun of Groudon and make it see the goodness in the world. Her intelligence was greater than Groudon's.

In the image of the blueness of Kyogre Arceus created Latios. Latios would use the image in the seas to make Kyogre see the compassion of the world. His intelligence was greater than Kyogre's.

Latias and Latios would roam the surface of the earth with the greatest speed's ever known, to travel quickly to make the battling heathens see the greatness of the world. Still this was not enough.

As quickly as one could travel another would lose track, for even with their speed could they not cover all of the lands. Arceus made it so the female could bore the children given to it by the male. They could reproduce to cover all of planet with their peace. This was still not enough.

Still Palkia's space was filled with the waters thrown into it by the battling. And peace was hard to befall Groudon and Kyogre. The Alpha Omega reasoned it must create one being. One being which would have the power to appear and control the beasts. One being which would enjoy the consumption of the waters strewn about the skies of the earth.

Arceus then created Rayquaza. A large, green, gleaming, all-powerful, beast which could control the two, which would see the peace brought forth by Latias and Latios, and which would not threaten the protector's of space and time. Rayquaza did calm the storm, see the peace, not threaten the guardians, did weild the embodiment's of Arceus's pureheart, and did enjoy the consumption of the water strewn about earth's skies.

The Alpha Omega and it's children rejoiced at the complacency of earth and of it's wonderful, balanced, surface. The sun would soon set and leave them all in silence.
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Day 5 - Day 6

Postby nza » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:25 pm

5 On the fifth mark of time Arceus and it's children were rejoicing over the earth's greatness, yet Arceus felt that while it was complacent and balanced it was not at amity with itself and it was not beautiful or living. Arceus would create beings to bring amity and beauty to the surface. Arceus would create beings that would make the surface of earth sustainable for others.

The Alpha Omega imagined the waters of the planet were flowing and vibrant but not raging. It brought forth a large white being. It was all-knowing and powerful. It was Lugia, master of the skies. And Lugia sprung forth and flew above the waves. Lugia's power pushed the raging waves down and it created currents which would softly collide with the shores of the continent of earth. The ocean were beginning to calm. Arceus said that Lugia was good and shown the amity of the ocean.

Calm waters in the ocean were not enough to bring amity to the surface of the angry planet. Arceus imagined that the lands were not furiously cracking or moving. Arceus saw the glistening and trembling lakes of his pureheart but wanted more lakes. Arceus saw the browns, tans, and reds of the land but wanted more colour. With the 1,000 sparkles of it's first children in mind Arceus painted a glorious picture of another winged beast. Arceus could feel the power of this beast as it circled. The Alpha Omega gave it to the skies of the land. The trembling waters of Arceus's three tears were beginning to calm and the earth's hard surface's cracking began to slow. Arceus said that Ho-Oh was good and shown the amity of the land.

Yet Arceus was not finished with the lands. Arceus imagined many continents. Arceus imagined the continents were separated by the glistening surface of not one but many oceans. The Alpha Omega imagined a legged beast that could pull the land and make many lands which he could give life to and that that life would be vastly different and beautiful than the life of other continents. And the golem Regigigas appeared. It was given to the earth and began to make work of separating the land into many lands. Regigigas was slow to break apart the surface but would soon pick up speed and strength as it worked. Arceus said that Regigigas was good and would show the beauty of life on the earth's surface in due time.

Arceus and it's children were again joyful and watched as the new creations worked on the planet's surface.

6 On the sixth mark of time Arceus found it had not fulfilled itself, time, space, or the void in creating a beautiful and living planet. On this day Arceus would take one of its last steps in making the earth beautiful and full of life. Arceus determined the planet would become self- sustaining and abundant with life.

Arceus deemed seasons would exist wherein they were born of and afflicted by the weather. The Alpha Omega determined the ocean to be the primary source for creating weather and the seasons, with the help of more beings. Lugia was beckoned and asked to imagine 3 beings for it's control to accomplish the weather and the seasons.

Lugia did first imagine unbearable cold moving amongst the peaks of Groudon's mountains. Arceus shed a tear of ice and named it Articuno, Articuno whose flapping wings shed snow. Articuno who appears before the doomed amongst the snowcapped mountains. This blue beast of the skies would appear and bring with it the cold of winter. Arceus did say Articuno was brilliant and gave it to the earth. Lugia smiled in happiness.

Lugia did next imagine freightening sound and surges of power filling atmosphere and colliding with Groudon's lands. Arceus shed a thunderous and explosive tear which was named Zapdos. Zapdos whose wings would flap and throw bolts of lightning toward the ground. This yellow beast would appear prior the change from winter to spring and summer to fall. Arceus did say Zapdos was brilliant and gave it to the earth. Lugia smiled in joy.

Lugia did last imagine the scourging heat of Ho-Oh's presence moving swiftly through the skies and melting Articuno's snowcapped mountains. The Alpha Omega shed a molten tear reminiscient of Ho-Oh's powerful presence and named it Moltres. Moltres whose wings would flap dropping hot flames onto the lands of Groudon. This orange beast would appear signifying the peak of spring and beginning of summer. Arceus did say Moltres was brilliant and gave it to the earth. Lugia smiled ecstatically.

These three would assist in the creation of the seasons and bring change in weather during them. Articuno, the bringer of the cold and the frosts that slowly turn fall to winter. Moltres, the bringer of heat and the sun of summer. Zapdos, the mediator, who comes to turn winter to spring and summer to fall. On the first season it was winter.

Arceus deemed the lands would be wealthy with earth's elements but the Alpha Omega felt these elements should be watched from the skies. Following Lugia Arceus would then beckon Ho-Oh and ask it to imagine 3 beings for it's control to accomplish the task of spreading the elements about the surface of earth. Ho-Oh watched as the power of these three new monsters light up the skies of earth.

Ho-Oh did first imagine the sparkling tears of Arceus's pureheart, the three lakes. Arceus shed a tear of water and named it Suicune, Suicune's whose speed and strength would bring about the North Winds. Suicune who sped across the globe to purify the tainted waters of earth's lands. This beast's back was glorious and blue and streaming behind Suicune peacefully. Here the North Winds were born. Arceus did say Suicune was briliant and gave it to the earth as a drop of water. Ho-Oh smiled in happiness.

Ho-Oh did next imagine the lightning lighting up Lugia's skies. Arceus shed a tear of electricity and named it Raikou, Raikou whose speed and power would channel the earth's electricity. Raikou whose roar would shake and shudder the grounds as if lightning had just hit. This beast's back was wonderful and purple and held still behing Raikou but seemed to float. It appeared as a thundercloud would. Arceus did say Raikou was brilliant and gave it to the earth as a thunderbolt. Ho-Oh smiled respectfully.

Ho-Oh did last imagine the brilliant glowing magma flowing out of Heatran's volcanoes. Arceus shed a tear of magma and named it Entei, Entei whose unforgiving power forced it quickly about the earth. Entei whose roar would bring forth the magma of the nearest volcano and send it flying out of the ground. This beast's back was grey as the smoke of consuming fire, as it moved from Entei it disappeared as more would crawl out from it's singed brown hair. Arceus did say Entei was brilliant and gave it to the earth as a ball of magma sending Entei to burst from the soul of Heatran. Ho-Oh smiled greatfully.

These three would protect the coming creatures of the earth from it's own elements. Suicune, the purifier of water and bringer of the North Winds. Raikou, the power of channeling electricity and bringer of land strikes. Entei, the power to erupt volcanoes and bringer of fire on land.

The skies and oceans were nearly alive while the land was only just beginning to take shape. Arceus had seen the amazing green of Celebi. It imagined a brilliant tapestry of many colors as well. Fields upon fields upon fields of beautiful greens, blues, reds, yellows, purples, and more. Flowers. Plants which could create and purify the air of earth. Arceus shed a tear and named it Shaymin. Shaymin who would born fields of lush flowers and keep the air clean. The Alpha Omega gave Shaymin to the earth and immediately it began to show brilliant green and the colors Arceus had imagined.

Space, time, and the void were almost satisfied but Arceus was not. It saw Shaymin making flowers, the numerous kinds flowers which could reproduce on their own. Arceus saw Heatran which could reproduce on it's own. The Alpha Omega saw Latias and Latios which could reproduce on their own. From the species of flowers and all of it's children Arceus imagined another being that could create many species that could born their own babies. This being that could change shape. This being that would hold within it the DNA of all of Arceus's children. The most intelligent of all of his children. The Alpha Omega shed a tear and named it Mew.

Mew was sent to the earth where it would begin the process of creating all other Pokemon. Arceus and it's children then watched as the land grew in color and life. As the skies moved. As the roars of power beasts shook the land and crashed into the atmosphere.
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby MikkelDemey » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:26 pm

lol, I love the ability to change the poster...

Ok, we're stuck on Day 7.

Let's continue.
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby superflous » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:54 pm

You can do that o.O

Well, I think you should mention ditto somewhere.
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby ElefantRider » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:03 pm

Ditto should have some association with mew. The fact that its pink and has transform makes it seem like they have a connection.
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby nza » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:51 pm

As I said, Ditto = Mew terds?
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby superflous » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:48 am

Exactly.

Maybe they were created by a lesser god out of jealousy?
Maybe it was Heatran...
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby Hype » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:54 am

^ iLOL
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby Clanjos » Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:33 pm

Rotom was made to keep technology in check? >_> Dunno if this was already suggested.
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby nza » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:56 am

So... I went to the library in Canalave and did some reading...

Sinnoh Myth
Betray not your anger,
lest ??? will come.
Weep not with sorrow,
or ??? will draw near.
When joy and enjoyment come natural as the very air,
that is happines.
Let such be blessed by the hand of Master ???
These words were spoken often as customary.

So we attempt to fill in the blanks...

Sinnoh Region's Mythology
Long ago,
when Sinnoh had just been made,
Pokemon and humans led separate lives.
That is not to say the did not help each other.
No, indeed they did.
They supplied each other with goods,
and supported each other.
A Pokemon proposed to the others
to always be ready to help humans.
It asked that Pokemon be ready to
appear before humans always.
Thus, to this day, Pokemon appear
to us if we venture into tall grass.

Well now we know they 'why' for their appearing and yea, we knew this, basically it's just a confirmation.

Sinnoh's Myth
Three Pokemon there were.
Into the lakes they dove.
Deep, deep, drawing no breath.
Deeper, deeper they dove.
Into suffocating depths they dove.
Deeper, then deepest they alight.
From the lake floor they rise.
Bearing with them the power
to make vast lands,
they rise again.

Hmm? It seems the trio created the lands...

Veilstone's Myth
A young man,
callow and foolish in innocence,
came to own a sword.

With it,
he smote Pokemon,
which gave sustenance,
with carefree abandon.

Those not taken as food,
he discarded,
with no afterthought.

The following year,
no Pokemon appeared.

Larders grew bare,
The young man,
seeking the missing Pokemon,
journeyed afar.

Long did he search.
And far and wide, too,
until one he did find.

Asked he, "Why did you hide?"
To which the Pokemon replied...
"If you bear your sword
to bring harm upon us,
with clawd and fangs,
we will exact a tall.
From your kind we will
take our toll, for it must
be done.
Done it must be to guard
ourselves and for it,
I apologize."

To the skies,
the young man shouted his dismay.
"In having found the sword,
I have lost so much.
Gorged with power,
I grew blind to Pokemon being alive.
I will never fall savage again.
This sword I denounce and forsake.
I plead for forgiveness for I was a fool."

So saying,
the young man hurled the sword
to the ground, snapping it.
Seeing this, the Pokemon disappeared
to a place beyond seeing...

Folklore explaining away why not to abuse pogeymanz and yea. Wonder who this pogey was?

Sinnoh Folk Stories 1
Pick clean the bones of Pokemon
caught in the sea or stream.
Thank them for the meals they
provide, and prick their bones clean.
When the bones are as clean as can be,
set them free in the water from which they came.
The Pokemon will return,
fully fleshed,
and it begins anew.

Hmm, evidence of reincarnation?

Sinnoh Folk Stories 2
There lived a Pokemon in a forest.
In the forest,
the Pokemon shed its hide
to sleep as a human.
Awakened, the human donned
the Pokemon hide to
roam villages.

Ok, I'm getting from this that a Pokemon created humanity, far as I can see it was Mew...???

Sinnoh Folk Stories 3
There once were Pokemon that
became very close to humans.
There once were humans and
Pokemon that ate together
at the same table.
It was a time when there
existed no differences to
distinguish the two.

I'm not sure if to take this literally?

Also went Plate hunting, I found I only needed 7, so I couldn't be sure but assume that the 8 described elsewhere are all there are.

Plates
When the universe was created, its shards became this Plate.
The power of defeated giants infuses this Plate.
Two beings of time and space set free from the Original One.
Three beings were born to bind time and space.
Two make matter, and three make spirit, shaping the world.
The Original One breathed alone before the universe came.
The powers of Plates are shared among Pokémon.
The rightful bearer of a Plate draws from the Plate it holds.

There is supposedly more to this in a book in Canalave called "The Original Story." It explains Arceus was born from an egg in a vortex of chaos. The book is not on the top floor. I checked the bottom too, anyone else can find it for exact wording?

The Dialga Statue
"...creation of DIA... ...giver of time... In laughter, there is tears... And,
likewise... The same time flows... ...the blessing of DIA..."
The text is barely legible and has faded completely in places...

Translation: The Creation of Dialga. The giver of time __. In laughter, there is tears __. And likewise __. The same time flows __ the blessing of Dialga __.
Helps. It is possible that there are more than one word being blanked out.

The Palkia Statue
???

Unown Codes
At the entrance:
TOP RIGHT
LOWER LEFT
TOP RIGHT
TOP LEFT
TOP LEFT
LOWER LEFT

At the end:
FRIENDSHIP
ALL LIVES
TOUCH OTHER
LIVES TO CREATE
SOMETHING
ANEW AND ALIVE

Long story short, most of the story, as it stands, is broken. Thoughts and additions would be cool.
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby MikkelDemey » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:50 am

The trio did not create the lands.
They just can lift up their cave they live in, which is in the lake.
It says right there:

Into the lakes they dove.

You cannot have a lake without land, can you? >_>


Reïncarnation was already proven in the Pogey world.
They go to that mountain in Hoenn to die and they are reborn on one of the sevii Islands, iirc.
Or their souls or whatever...
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby nza » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:39 pm

Two make matter, and three make spirit, shaping the world.

^ What of this?
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby MikkelDemey » Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:15 pm

Just like real life religion, the pogeyworld contradicts itself.
Somewhere was mentioned that the trio was created after man was.
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Re: Pokémon Bible / Pokémon History Discussion

Postby nza » Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:23 pm

So we keeps what I wrote'd?
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